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Keep
in mind when reading this, that the man being interviewed
is no two-bit internet conspiracy buff.
Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole (R)
and has personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for
decades. This courageous man has risked his professional
reputation, and possibly his life, to get this information
out to people.
The
following is from his latest visit to Alex Jones' radio
show.
Forwarded with Compliments of Free Voice of America (FVOA):
Accurate News and Interesting Commentary for Amerika's
Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free.
Note:
All honor to Stanley Hilton for risking his life so that
we may know the truth of 9/11.
The
Bush Junta Unmasked
"This
(9/11) was all planned. This was a government-ordered
operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally
authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass
murder." --Stanley Hilton
Alex
Jones interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney for 911
taxpayers' lawsuit
Alex
Jones Radio Show September 10, 2004 Transcription by 'RatCat'
AJ:
He is back with us. He is former Bob Dole's chief of
staff, very successful counselor,
lawyer. He represents hundreds of the
victims families of 9/11. He is
suing Bush for involvement in 9/11. Now a major Zogby poll
out - half of New Yorkers think the government was
involved in 9/11. And joining us for the next 35 minutes,
into the next hour, is Stanley Hilton. Stanley, it's great
to have you on with us.
SH:
Glad to be on.
AJ:
We'll have to recap this when we start the next hour, but
just in a nutshell, you have a lawsuit going, you've
deposed a lot of military officers. You know the truth of
9/11. Just in a nutshell, what is your case alleging?
SH:
Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and
Cheney and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were
all involved not only in aiding and abetting and allowing
9/11 to happen but in actually ordering it to happen. Bush
personally ordered it to happen. We have some very
incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses, that
Bush personally ordered this event to happen in order to
gain political advantage, to pursue a bogus political
agenda on behalf of the neocons and their deluded thinking
in the Middle East. I also wanted to point out that, just
quickly, I went to school with
some of these neocons. At the University of Chicago, in
the late 60s with Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the
others and so I know these people personally. And we used
to talk about this stuff all of the time. And I did my
senior thesis on this very subject - how to turn the U.S.
into a presidential dictatorship by manufacturing a bogus
Pearl Harbor event. So, technically this has been in the
planning at least 35 years.
AJ:
That's right. They were all Straussian followers of a
Nazi-like professor. And now they are setting it up here
in America. Stanley, I know you deposed a lot of people
and you've got your $7 million dollar lawsuit with
hundreds of the victim's families involved.
SH: 7
billion, 7 billion
AJ:
Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the new and
incriminating evidence you've got of them ordering the
attack?
SH:
Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers' class
action lawsuit as well as a suit on behalf of the families
and the basic three arguments are they violated the
Constitution by ordering this event. And secondly that
they [garbled] fraudulent Federal Claims Act, Title 31 of
the U.S. Code in which Bush presented false and fraudulent
evidence to Congress to get the Iraq war authorization.
And, of course, he related it to 9/11 and claimed that
Saddam was involved with that, and all these lies.
AJ:
Tell you what, stay there. Stanley, we've got to break.
Let's come back and get into the evidence. BREAK
AJ:
All right my friends, second hour, September 10th, 2004,
the anniversary of the globalist attack coming up
tomorrow. It's an amazing individual we have on the line.
Bob Dole's former chief of staff, political scientist, a
lawyer, he went to school with Rumsfeld and others, he
wrote his thesis about how to turn America into a
dictatorship using a fake Pearl Harbor attack. He's suing
the U.S. government for carrying out 9/11. He has hundreds
of the victims' families signing onto it - it's a $7
billion lawsuit. And he is Stanley Hilton. I know that a
lot of stations just joined us in Los Angeles and Rhode
Island and Missouri and Florida and all over. Please sir,
recap what you were just stating and then let's get into
the new evidence. And then we'll get into why you are
being harassed by the FBI, as other FBI people are being
harassed who have been blowing the whistle on this. So,
this is really getting serious. Stanley, tell us all about
it.
SH:
Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not
only allowing 9/11 to happen but in ordering it. The
hijackers we retained and we had a witness who is married
to one of them. The hijackers were U.S. undercover agents.
They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA to
spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled.
Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other
places. And this was a direct, covert operation ordered,
personally ordered by George W. Bush. Personally ordered.
We have incriminating evidence, documents as well as
witnesses, to this effect. It's not just incompetence - in
spite of the fact that he is incompetent. The fact is he
personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at one point,
there were rehearsals of this. The reason why he appeared
to be uninterested and nonchalant on September 11th - when
those videos showed that Andrew Card whispered in his ear
the [garbled] words about this he listened to kids reading
the pet goat story, is that he thought this was another
rehearsal. These people had dress-rehearsed this many
times. He had seen simulated videos of this. In fact, he
even made a Freudian slip a few months later at a
California press conference when he said he had, quote,
"seen on television the first plane attack the first
tower." And that could not be possible because there was
no video. What it was was the simulated video that he had
gone over. So this was a personally government-ordered
thing. We are suing them under the Constitution for
violating Americans' rights, as well as under the federal
Fraudulent Claims Act, for presenting a fraudulent claim
to Congress to justify the bogus Iraq boondoggle war, for
political gains. And also, under the RICO statute, under
the Racketeering Corrupt Organization Act, for being a
corrupt entity. And I've been harassed personally by the
chief judge of the federal court who is instructing me
personally to drop this suit, threatened to kick me off
the court, after 30 years on the court. I've been harassed
by the FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My
office has been broken into and this is the kind of
government we are dealing with.
AJ:
Absolutely and now it has come out - five separate drills
of flying hijacked jets into buildings that morning -
which you told us about before it even
broke in the Associated Press. They were trying to get out
ahead of you. You talked about how you interviewed
military people who were told it was a drill that morning.
Then to get out ahead of that, the news finally reported
on it. Now, we've learned that all these operations - I
want to get into that, I want to talk about the new
incriminating evidence of ordering it and how they had
drilled on this, how Cheney was in the bunker controlling
this. That has even come out in the mainstream news but
they won't release the details of that, Stanley. But what
type of FBI harassment are you going through?
SH: First of
all, my office was burglarized in San Francisco several
months ago. Files were gone through and some files were
seized - particularly the ones dealing with the lady that
was married to one of the hijackers. Fortunately, I had
spare copies in a hidden place so nothing disappeared
permanently. But more significantly, FBI agents have been
harassing one of my staff members and threatening them
with vague but frightening threats of indicting them. And
it's just total harassment. They have planted a spy, an
undercover agent, in my organization, as we just recently
discovered. In other words, these are Nazi Germany
tactics. This is the kind of government you have in this
country. This is what Bush is all about.
AJ:
Stay there, Stanley, Bob Dole's former chief of staff.
We'll come back after this quick break. Please stay with
us. BREAK
AJ:
All right, eight minutes, 25 seconds into the second hour.
Stanley Hilton, political scientist, lawyer, Bob Dole's
former chief of staff, is suing the government for 7
billion dollars for carrying out 9/11 and for
racketeering. And he joins us now. During the break, I
first really did the big interview with Stanley Hilton
after I saw him attacked on Fox News. And that interview
got massive attention. And then he kind of went
underground for a while because a judge, we're going to
talk about that, ordered him to not do any more
interviews. And now he's back doing interviews. He's had
his office broken into, FBI threats and harassment. Bottom
line, he has deposed military individuals, wives of
hijackers, you name it, it was
a government operation. It has even come out in mainstream
news, a piece here, a piece there. They had drills on
9/11, that's why NORAD stood down. Cheney was in control
of the whole thing. Stanley Hilton has now gotten
documents about how Bush ordered the whole operation. And
I'll tell you right now, his life is in danger, folks. And
he's got so much courage. He went to school with these
neocons at the University of Chicago. He wrote his thesis
on how the government could use terrorist attacks to set
up martial law. He is the man for the time and
folks wondered why he disappeared for
a while and just did his lawsuit and wasn't doing
interviews, it was because he was ordered to. Stanley, can
you get into that for us?
SH: I
did an interview with you, Alex, back in March of 2003,
about a year and a half ago, and literally two weeks after
that, I was contacted by the emissary of the chief judge
of the federal court where I have the lawsuit. And I was
warned not to publicize it but to keep it quiet and
threatened with discipline. And it remained quiet until a
couple of months ago and then I got on the air on some
programs and some publicity and July 1st, I was threatened
directly by the chief judge here, threatened with court
discipline. This particular judge has been circulating
communiqués to the other federal judges seeking anything
negative she can get against me to try and discipline me
after I've been on the court here for 30 years with no
disciplinary problems at all. This is suddenly happening.
And her assistants who are on the committee of the court
met with me on July 1st in Palo Alto, California, and
threatened me directly. They handed me a copy of the
lawsuit and said that the judge wants me to dismiss this.
What's this? She doesn't like the content of it. This is
politically incorrect. This is outside the norm. I said I
represented more than 400 plaintiffs, how am I going to
dismiss this case? And they threatened me directly and
they said, "the next time you'll be disciplined." And also
they've threatened me not to go public, etc. And this is
just outrageous.
AJ:
It's all color of law. No direct orders, just all in your
face.
SH:
They sent a letter out, and of course they deny it's
because of the political content of the suit but they told
me directly on the phone that it is because of this suit
and this judge is very, very angry, apparently has been in
contact with Ashcroft's Justice Department. I got a call
from Ashcroft's Justice Department a few months ago about
this, demanding that I drop the suit, threatening
sanctions and all kinds of things. I refused to drop it.
AJ: Now let's go back over, you had them break into your
office, harassment. Let's go over that in detail.
SH:
My office was broken into about 6 months ago. The file
cabinets - it was obvious they had been rifled through.
Files were stolen. Files dealing with this particular case
and particularly with the documents I had regarding the
fact that the - some of these hijackers, at least some of
them were on the payroll of the U.S. government as
undercover FBI, CIA, double agents. They are spying on
Arab groups in the U.S. And, in effect, all this led up to
the effect that al Qaeda is a creation of the George Bush
administration, basically. That the entity that he called
al Qaeda is directly linked to George Bush. And all this
stuff was stolen. Fortunately, I had copies. But this was
just part of the harassment. The FBI has also been
harassing some of my assistants and has planted a spy in
our midst. And it is just outrageous that these Nazi
tactics are being used - and the obstruction of justice,
these people are criminals. And that's what's happening
under the tremendous pressure here to just drop it. Or to
shut up now and just go away.
AJ:
Now, let's talk about what they want you to drop. Let's
talk about, without giving names, the people you deposed,
what really happened, the picture you've got. You said
earlier that Bush ordered this,
they were simulating this which they now admit there were
simulations on that morning. Let's go over what they don't
want you to talk about, Stanley.
SH:
We have evidence both documentary as well as witness sworn
statements from undercover former FBI agents, FBI
informants, etc., that other officials in the Pentagon and
the military and the Air Force that deal with the fact
that there were many drills, many rehearsals for 9/11
before it happened. Bush had seen this simulated on TV
many times. He blurted this out at a press conference in
California a few months after 9/11 where he said he had,
quote, seen the first plane hit the first building on the
video. And that's not possible because there was no
official video of that. There was one of the second
plane not the first one. He had
seen the first one. We do have some incriminating
documents that Bush personally ordered 9/11 events. It was
well planned. A FEMA official has admitted on tape that he
was there the night before - September 10th, that is
AJ:
And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months ago in the 911
Commission, admitted that - Tripod II. They had their
whole command post already moved out of Building 7. Now,
this is very, very important. This is a key area of this
whole event. You said months before it came out on the
CIA's own website and the Associated Press, you said I
deposed people. They said there were drills that morning
and exactly what happened, happening - that was the
smoke-screen for the stand-down. And then to get out ahead
of it, the CIA comes out and said yeah we were running a
drill that morning. Now, we've learned that five, possibly
six, were confirmed. Five of these - one drill with the
exact same thing happening that actually happened, at the
exact same time in the morning. That's why NORAD stood
down with 24 different blips on the screen. You've said
this. You brought this up first. Now, I know you can't get
too much into detail but can you tell us how you learned
of this?
SH: I
have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the Air Force. I
personally toured NORAD many years ago around the time
that I worked for Dole. I'm very familiar with the
operations at Cheyenne Mountain at Colorado Springs, where
NORAD is. Individuals that work in NORAD as well as the
Air Force have stated this, off the record, but the point
is, yes, this was not just five drills but at least 35
drills over at least two months before September 11th.
Everything was planned, the exact location
AJ:
But five drills that day.
SH:
That day, that day, and Bush thought it was a drill.
That's the only explanation for why he appeared nonchalant
AJ:
We also had NORAD officers and civilian air traffic
controllers going, "Is this part of the exercise? Is this
a drill?"
SH:
Yes.
AJ:
On the tapes and in TV interviews, they thought it was,
quote, a drill.
SH:
That's right. That's exactly what I said long before it
became public. I've known about this since earlier in
March of '03, as I stated before. This was all planned.
This was a government-ordered operation. Bush personally
signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks. He
is guilty of treason and mass murder. And now, obstruction
of justice by attempting to use a federal judge and FBI
agents to inhibit a legitimate civil lawsuit in this
country, in federal court. Even a chief judge in this
court tried to harass and threaten me personally for
representing legitimate plaintiffs. And they got Clinton
for allegedly lying under oath about Paula Jones and now -
look what's happening now. And Ken Starr used to be across
from me in Duke Law School in the early `70s and it´s
interesting that he got away with trying to get Clinton
impeached, so we have a far worse criminal sitting in the
oval office today - somebody guilty of mass murder as well
as obstruction of justice.
AJ:
Well, I mean look, they say they never heard of a plan to
fly planes into buildings - said it all over television -
Rice, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft.
And then we find out they were running all these drills
that morning. Even if they weren't involved, that proves
they were liars about ever hearing of such a plan.
SH:
Well, I'm trying to take their depositions - I've been
trying to take their depositions for months. They've been
trying to object to it. They will have to admit they were
either lying then or now. It's clearly perjury either way.
They are liars and perjurers; that's what they are. These
are the people that we have running this government and,
of course, they knew about it. How are they going to claim
now that they didn't know about these drills? Their idea
is that nobody knew anything. It's the old know-nothing
mentality. And how anybody considers this believable is
beyond me.
AJ:
All right, now people ask how could a huge organization,
how could the AWACs, how could the military let this
happen; whereas before, if your Cessna got off course for
five minutes, they would launch F-16s on you. It's real
simple. It's what Stanley Hilton said here a year and a
half ago. It's what came out in the news after that. The
military, good people, were
told this was all a drill. And it was not a drill. And ABC
News admits that Cheney was in control of [?] out of the
White House [?] and that he ordered the military to quote
"do something." Our inside sources from Hilton and others
say it was a stand down and they admit they will not
release that under national security. Stanley?
SH:
Well they are going to admit it, they're going to release
it in the court case because if you demand it under
subpoena powers and they must release it. And part of our
lawsuit is brought in the name of the U.S. because under
the federal fraudulent [Claims Act], we accuse the Bush
Administration of presenting a fraudulent claim to
Congress. And under the statutes of Title 31 of the U.S.
code, they must release this information. That's why they
are trying to threaten me, harass me, invade my office,
steal my files, commit blatant obstruction of justice and
other crimes to try and prevent a legitimate civil suit
from exposing these criminals and their acts of treason
and mass murder.
AJ: I
think you need to publicly tell folks that you are not
planning suicide. Would you like to tell folks that?
SH:
(laughs) I'm not planning suicide. I've got family and I'm
not planning that but I don't like the threats I'm under -
but I can tell you this, it's taking a toll emotionally on
me and my staff. And particularly, when you get a threat
from the chief judge of your own court.
AJ:
Why have you decided to go public again after a year of
being under the radar?
SH: Because the more and more
evidence that I've been adducing over a year and a half
has made it so obvious to me that this was now without any
doubt a government operation and that it amounts to the
biggest act of treason and mass murder in American
history. I mean George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look
like a patriot. He makes Benedict Arnold look like George
Washington. I mean that's what we have - a criminal and a
traitor sitting in the White House pretending he's a
patriot, wrapping himself in the flag. And it's pretty
disgusting because the other side of the so-called
opposition, the Kerry camp is just saying nothing because
they're afraid to speak.
AJ:
Stay right there. We'll be right back. BREAK
AJ:
Stanley Hilton will be with us for another 15 or 16
minutes. Then he's got to go into court. Bob Dole's former
chief of staff, political scientist, lawyer, represents
400 plus plaintiffs - most of them victims of 9/11. When I
was in New York last week, everybody I was talking to, I
mean 90 plus percent of them at ground zero - "I had
family, I worked in the buildings, my son's a Navy Seal -
he called the night before and said don't go to work." You
know, all of this, and then now they never had any idea -
and it turns out they had all these drills - and one drill
of hijacked jets flying into the World Trade Center and
Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. That morning - come on
people! And Stanley Hilton brought all this out on this
show before it was in the mainstream news. And I was
talking to him during the break. I mean, the harassment,
the moles, the threatening of his staff, the judge
threatening him. Stanley, let's get specifically into the
documents that you have now got that they have now been
robbing you for, that you luckily, thank God had copies.
Specifically, Bush ordering this. Can you get into that
for us - ordering 9/11?
SH: National Security Council
classified documents which [garbled] and it's was part of
a series of documents that were involved with the drill
documents. This was all planned - they had it on
videotape. These planes were controlled by remote control,
as I stated previously a year and a half ago, there's a
system called Cyclops. There is a computer chip in the
nose of the plane and it enables the ground control, the
military ground control, to disable the pilot's control of
the plane and to control it and to fly it directly into
those towers. That's what happened. It's also a technology
used on what's called the Global Hawk, which is an
aircraft drone - a remote- controlled aircraft. And they
were doing it. We are talking about National Security
Council classified documents that clearly indicated that
[garbled] had a green light to order this to go and this
is no drill. These drills that were running were clearly a
dress rehearsal and this was a government operation. You
wonder why these people are trying to threaten people and
trying to intimidate people who have written this suit, I
guess if you murdered 3000 of your own citizens, in
conjunction with the corrupt Royal family of Saudi Arabia
as Bush did. And if you then waste billions more on a
worthless garbage war in Iraq, I guess you've got
something to worry about and you want to threaten people
to prevent it from coming out.
AJ: I
mean let's look at this. Not only are there dress
rehearsals, they are smoke screens so the good military
stands down and doesn't know what's happening. But it's
now coming out, even in mainstream news, that yes these
drills were going on. Yes, and some of these drills,
quote, passenger-type jets were under remote control -
this is decades old technology. In 1958, NORAD was [ ] old
jets and using them for target practice. Decades ago they
flew jumbo jets from LA to Sidney Australia. So since
that's going on, everybody knows that. And it's the same
MO. Just like the first World Trade Center [bombing] where
they get two retarded men who followed this blind sheik
who had a tiny mosque above a pizza parlor. And they set
them up as the patsies. Then the FBI cooks the bomb,
trains the drivers. This informant goes, "You're not going
to bomb the building? They go "Yeah, we're letting it go
forward." He tapes them to protect
themselves. The two retarded gentlemen, thank God,
didn't park it up against the column, as the FBI
instructed them to do, so it didn't bring down the tower -
because you have to be right up against the column. That
doesn't happen. Yet, it's the same thing with 9/11. You've
got these CIA agents, these Arabs, who were trained at
U.S. military bases, Pensacola Naval Air Station -
mainstream media, out creating their legends for this
background. They're on board the aircraft. My military
sources say nerve gas kills everybody on board the plane -
nerve gas packets. Then they fly the planes into
buildings. From your inside sources, is that accurate?
SH:
It's one of the things that we are looking into - that
nerve gas or something else disabled people. It's
possible. I can't say for sure to be honest with you
AJ:
All you know is they were government agents and they were
on board and the planes were remote controlled.
SH:
Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the events
of the hijackings, how someone snuck in those cutters, it
was a plant. It was like a classic decoy. I've got some
military background. And it's called decoy. It's a decoy
operation. You make the people focus on the decoy to avoid
looking at the real criminals. So they are focusing on
these so-called nineteen hijackers and saying, "Oh, it
must have been these Arabs. When, in fact, the guilty
person is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue - sitting in the
oval office. That's the guilty person. That's the one who
authorized it. There is only one man who could have
authorized this operation and that's Bush. And anyone at NORAD will tell you as I have been told personally at
NORAD in the war control room, there
is only one man who has the power to do this kind
of thing and that's Bush. Even though many believe he's a
puppet. And I think in many ways he is. The fact of the
matter is where was [ ] Cheney, Rumsfeld and these other
traitors. The fact is Bush personally ordered and he's
guilty and liable and he's going to be re-elected
apparently because the media's asleep and [garbled] for
Bush.
AJ: Well, the media is owned by the same military
industrial complex that carried out the attacks.
SH:
Yeah, the media is only interested in maintaining the
official government fantasy that this was a little lone
Arab. These Arabs couldn't even steer that plane down a
runway.
AJ:
Stay there Stanley, final segment coming up. BREAK
AJ:
Mr. Hilton, when you talk to these FBI agents, when you
talk to these military men and women, what's their
attitude? They've got to be pretty freaked out to have the
big picture and know what actually happened on 9/11.
SH:
Yes, you know it's like clouds just before a thunderstorm
in the sense that they are sort of pregnant with rage.
They are just enraged at the criminal politicians who have
perverted and misused the government to murder its own
citizens and pursue these dubious political ends. And many
of them, in increasing numbers, are willing to talk and
will talk under subpoena - but only under subpoena because
the official party line of the government is shut up and
don't talk to the trial lawyer. But more and more, they
are very outraged that part of the government has done
this to its own people, to its own people. I mean you have
to go back to Stalin to see something - not even Hitler
did this to his own people. You have to look at Stalin who
murdered the Kulaks, the Russians for his own dubious
gains. Also we've got - we have a Stalinist mentality in
this country. And, if these people pose as patriots and
wrap themselves in the flag, it's disgusting. I wanted
also to point out that the Japanese television network,
Asahi, is going to be airing a special on primetime
tomorrow, on September 11th. They interviewed me for eight
hours a couple of weeks ago. I'll be on that. I wish - of
course, the America media don't care so they are not going
to care. But in Japan, people are very serious in
interviewing me and others. And we have a website now,
called deprogram.info, if more people are interested:
www.deprogram.info. But the other thing, I just wanted to
say that if anything happens to me - and I don't know why
- because I'm being threatened here now. And it seems you
can't bring a case in this country anymore against
criminals in power without being threatened. And this is
how they operate. The stakes are pretty high when you've
got a world historical level of treason and fraud by this
government against it's own
people. I guess this is what you have to expect.
AJ:
Stanley, the globalists, the new world order crowd,
definitely intend to carry out
more terror attacks. I know they would have carried out
more attacks if we wouldn't have done what we've been up
to, if you wouldn't have been out there boldly speaking
out and many others. And then their electronic Berlin wall
has a bunch of cracks in it now. Thanks to good people
like yourself and many others who are speaking out and
telling the truth. But do you think that they may carry
out what they've been hyping - a suitcase nuke attack, a
biological release to try to smokescreen all of this? I
know it's a catch 22, you've
got to expose the murderers. We've got to get the word out
on this but some government people that I've talk to say,
"Yeah, but if you do that, they are going to go even more
hard core and must totally try to take over." But I say
regardless, they are already doing that. So what do you
say to that?
SH:
Well, yeah, I think they have an agenda. They have
contingency plans. I think they are
laying low now because there are an increasing
number of people, like myself, who are openly challenging
them and accusing them of criminal conduct. I think they
would have done it again if we had not spoken up. I think
they're planning, what they would like to do is silence
any dissenters. That's why we are trying to get the
Patriot Act declared unconstitutional in this lawsuit
also.
AJ:
Let's talk about polls. In the beginning a patriot is a
scarce man, hated and feared, but in time when his cause
succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs
nothing to be a patriot. You are one of those guys who hit
the barbwire for us, or figuratively jumped on the hand
grenade for America. But when you've got a Zogby poll,
who is highly respected, half
of New Yorkers believe that the government was involved.
When you have a Canadian poll, 63% on average believe that
the U.S. government was involved. And some groups, as high
as 76% in polls believe the government was involved.
European polls, two- thirds show the same thing. We have
German defense ministers and technology ministers and
another member of their government now, three of them
going public, known conservatives, and progressives. You
have an environment minister, Michael Meacher, saying that
if they didn't do it, they sure as hell knew what was
going on. Look, if anybody who is a thinking person looks
at the evidence, their official story is impossible. Then
you investigate and they are involved in it. Comments to
this massive awakening and what's happening.
SH:
Well, I think that's why they want the Patriot Act to
suppress political dissent. They have to, they're
anticipating, they are not dumb individuals. I know these
people personally, Wolfowitz. These are criminal
individuals but they are smart and so they anticipated
political dissent. And that's why, like the Nazis, their
forebears, and their blood brothers, the Nazis and the
Stalinists, they're all for political repression. Every
corrupt and criminal government has done this - they
suppress their own people: Nazi Germany, Communist Russia,
Mao Tse-Tung, that's why we
have the Patriot Act. So it's hand in hand. They had it
planned to go right up to September 11th, this was all
part of the plan. You have to do it. It was part of my
senior thesis. You must follow through the
terrorists attacks with a
political suppression mechanism in the law. And that's why
they want Patriot I and Patriot II and their plans are to
continue launching more terrorist attacks to justify even
more repression. The goal is to make this a one party
dictatorship in this country, to pursue their dubious ends
with their blood brothers like the Saudi Royal family. And
also, historical blood brothers, such as the Nazi Germany
and the Communist Russian. That's the goal
AJ:
You've got to go in just a minute or two. But I wanted to
also tell you about New York. Sound cannons that are used
in Iraq, they're against us. Men in black ski masks.
41,000 police, accredited media being arrested randomly.
Children being arrested, people in wheelchairs, 2000 plus
people put in a camp with barbwire fences inside with no
bathrooms. You had to have permission to go to the porta-potties.
Police screaming at you. It had nothing to do with
terrorism. They are openly setting the precedent for
martial law.
SH:
Well, that's right, the word terrorist is now being overly
broad and overly defined [garbled] and also, you know,
it's like the word communist was used for anything during
the McCarthy witch hunt. And anybody can be called a
terrorist by Bush's definition. But the irony is that the
number one terrorist in the world is living at the White
House at the oval office today. That's the real irony. For
sheer hypocrisy, I think he deserves the world prize and
ought to be in the Ripley book, Believe It or Not, and the
Guinness book of world records for sheer brazen chicanery
and fraud.
AJ:
Let me ask you a question on this because this is the
experience that I had. Watching television, watching the
killers, watching those that are guilty, stand up there as
our saviors is incredibly painful. It's like watching Ted
Bundy being the judge at his own trial. I mean it is just
painful to know who these people are. To see them putting
America in a shredder. Now we are going to have forced
psychological testing of every American, forced drugging,
you know Pan-American unions, I mean it's just all
happening, it's in our face,
Stanley.
SH:
Yeah, it's very disturbing and as one who has studied the
theory and concept of dictatorships, I personally
interviewed Albert Speer, who was Hitler's armaments
minister. I interviewed him in 1981 in Munich. And I've
studied the psychology and history of totalitarianism and
there is no question that it's very frightening. And it
has, today, with high technology, albeit for the first
time in history, the chance of having a world empire
dominated by corrupt, technologically oriented government
- an elite government. And they've got now what people
like Napoleon and Hitler didn't have, which is the
technological means to dominate not only their own country
but others - the world.
AJ:
The answer is to expose them as the terrorists, to show
how PNAC [Project for the New American Century] said we
need helpful Pearl Harbor events, to show how Northwoods
called for the exact 9/11-style attacks, to show their own
plans. And to force people to face this horror. What are
they going to do in a year or two when 80% of us, not half
of us, know the truth?
SH:
Well, that's why they want repression and, then again, the
ancient old diversion, launch another terrorist attack to
get people to pitch it away. I mean who knows what they'll
do next. I mean their capacity for ingenious creation of
these events is sort of unraveled. I mean there is no
limit. My guess is they are going to try another stunt -
maybe a stunt just before the election to justify getting
Bush reelected. Although it seems like he is running
against a straw man or a ghost right now, anyway. But, my
guess is they'll try some other tactic to get people's
attention away from 9/11 if it gets to be too much
attention. What you really want is for the public to just
lose interest because the public - and it's like remember
the Alamo, you know, people don't forget things like that.
To me it's like the Alamo, remember 9/11, that ought to be
the slogan for this outrageous act of treason. That's what
it is. It's not
AJ:
We are at a crossroads, I don't think they anticipated
this much resistance, Stanley.
SH:
Yeah, I hope they are truly wrong and as incompetent as
they are corrupt and guilty. That means their incompetence
is exceeded only by their corruption and their guilt. And
eventually, if enough people are going to get outraged
enough, these people in the bureaucracy and in the civil
service and our military, and eventually we can get people
under subpoena these individuals will be exposed.
AJ:
Stanley, their whole operation hinges on us being naïve
and not recognizing evil. This is what they got with
Hitler and others. People couldn't recognize evil so they
continued to repeat succumbing to it. We are recognizing
it this time. We are putting our lives, our treasure, our
future on the line for freedom because we cannot let these
blood-thirsty control freak terrorists capture us and use
us and turn us into the empire and have a draft and use us
as their slaves to invade the planet. And that's their PNAC plan. Stanley Hilton, I know you've got to get to
court. God bless you. I want to thank you for being here
with us today. Can we get you back on next week?
SH:
Sure, just give me a call.
AJ:
God bless you my friend. Any closing comments?
SH:
My closing comments would be, I think people ought to just
think about the consequence of having someone like Bush in
the White House and the danger for the future that these
sorts of individuals pose. This is not just a historical
event of the past. This is part of the plan and the camera
is still rolling. They have an agenda. These individuals
are extremely dangerous. They are armed and dangerous.
They pose a clear and dangerous threat to every
freedom-loving person not only American but in the whole
world.
AJ:
You are absolutely right Stanley Hilton. They have
captured the government. They have not captured the
peoples' minds and they are counting on us not facing up
to it.
SH:
And they are counting on the repressive Patriot Act and
threats and chief judges and FBI agents threatening people
who are exposing them. That's what they are counting on.
AJ:
But you're not backing down are you, my friend.
SH:
No, I'm not
AJ:
Well, we all stand with you, my brother, and God bless
you.
SH:
All right. Thank you. |